Fordham University has a nice page out with a side-by-side Latin/English of the Ordinary parts of the 1962 Mass which is easy to follow. This resource will also be kept on my sidebar, but I thought I'd call attention to it.
One note: that 2nd confiteor which used to be said while the priest was having Communion was officially "knocked out." in a fairly late change. I can see why too: [editorial comment coming up, fair warning] If the server is allegedly representing the unwashed, unlettered herd then he'd already said it for the sheeple. [Yes, there are a few things I would change about the latin Mass -- like more dialogue between priest and people -- especially on a Sunday, I'd as soon say my OWN Confiteor, thank you very much! Albeit, sometimes the choir is yodeling over it in a Missa Cantata.]
Showing posts with label nuts and bolts. Show all posts
Showing posts with label nuts and bolts. Show all posts
Saturday, December 5, 2009
Thursday, November 26, 2009
Conventions for this blog
On this blog I intend to use quite a bit of information from other sources. I think it important to give attribution, and the following conventions are designed to credit to the original author(s).
With that in mind:
Basic text for the posts will be in white. In the main body of the text, if you see something in white, in quotes, assume it was not written by me. It will be followed by a dash and an abbreviation for the original source of the material. I may put some common abbreviations used on the sidebar, but for full details of the source see the bottom of this post..
Any commentary text I add, will not be quoted, but will follow after a line break, followed by a series of dashes.
Sometimes, particularly when quoting the St. Mary's missal I have, information will have changed since 1948, when the book was published - such things as percentage of Catholics in a given US state, or population figures, etc. These emmendations will be given in bright blue type font, placed between curly brackets.
Example:
"St Froddo was born in hard time Mississsippi, surrounded by 4 walls that weren't so pretty, his parents gave him bon-bons, and a unicycle in 1912{1914}. Blah, blah. -- BS"
---
Heaven knows why this guy was made a Saint
--
Ergo the business about Froddo was a quote from "Bull Stuff " and you can look up the particulars on the source "Bull Stuff" here in detail, or on the sidebar for a short reference. The "heaven knows" comment was something I made up.
Links will be in yellow. Abbreviations for sources will be in red, there will be a short reference to the abbreviation in the sidebar--full details of the publication or source will be at the bottom of this post.
If for some reason, I get a hankering to add a link that also plays music, I will put a musical note or two behind the link, as a "Fair warning" that if you're goofing off at work, or whatever, reading this blog, the link you click to will play some music. A word to the wise.
Also on the side bar, will be some useful links which bring up frequentlly mentioned information - for instance, a list of popes, etc. it may be an external link to another site (duh), or if need be, it may link to a scribd page I've created. [Don't have any up yet, but keep an eye out for them.]
Where census figures and the like are updated, the most likely source will be The Catholic Almanac, or official US Census figures. If a different source is used, I'll so note with a hyphen and an Abbriviation as to source.
Watch my tags, I will try and be consistent. For instance, if there is a lovely series in the St. Mary's missal regards the history of the spread of Catholicism in each state I will try to put not only the name of the state in the tags section, but also the word "states."
Also, as regards to writing up the info. about the states -- for right now, I will not be doing them in alphabetical order. In part, because two states have been added to the Union since '48, namely Alaska and Hawaii, and I'm going to need some time to gather info on those states. I will try and do one state a week, usually in the order the state was admitted to the Union. [If there's a BIG bribe in the offing, however....]
If you're going to drop me a line privately, feel free, HOWEVER, give me a heads up in an online comment -- I generally don't check the email this blog is officially linked to. So, no, I'm not standoffish - it's just that you may be waiting for a MONTH (or more!) sometimes, before I'd see your email -- then you'd think I hated your guts or was ignoring you. You can write me there, of course, but do give me a heads up -- even if you don't have anything to say about that item.
It occurs to me that I am HOURS, and HOURS time zone wise behind most of you -- so I will try to get items that pertain to a given day or days a little ahead of time when applicable, but don't hold my feet to the fire over it. Capisce? Other wise I send out my half-Sicilian Godfather, Uncle Rollie. He's pushing 80, but he can still probably beat the crap out of you because he's a Frozen Chosin.
Abbreviations and their full attributions: (this list will likely expand over time)
-----------------------------------------
B.P.M. - Refers to the Latin Mass '62 edition recently published by Baronius Press. If they hadn't have been so lame, in some respects, I wouldn't have started this blog. (Well, okay, I had "other resources" to compare them with.)
C.E.N.A. - Catholic Encyclopedia, which is on the New-Advent Website. This reference will probably be used fairly frequently in links.
C.H. - Laux, Fr. John, - Church History (a history of the Catholic Church until 1940) -- originally published in 1930, with periodic emmendations -- Good for "upper high school * College Courses and Adult Reading." recently republished by TAN books. -- I would have loved this book in High School and after. In my day, in the 70s a lot of the religious education courses available were pretty Mickey Mouse (no offense to the Mouse!). [The only challenging class I had for religion was a basic philosophy class I took when I was 16, all the other classes were pretty much an easy "A" unless you were a complete moron, or "B" at worst. You'd have had to cut class to smoke ciggies if you got a "C" or less.
J. - The Mass of the Roman (Its origins and development), by Joseph Jungmann, 2 Vols. Originally published in the 50s, reissued by Collegeville press. I expect this resource will be invaluable for background articles. Jungmann was a master at being thorough, I'm not one for "allegorical" explanations as the main mover and shaker. [Allegorical is fine as an extra layer on type of everything, but it's usually something embroidered after the fact.
M.R.25 - Refers to my beautiful Missale Romanum, published in 1925. It's a beautiful little hand missal, 99% in Latin, designed for priest/seminarian. Quite useful for spotting changes to the calendar, or ritual over the course of the 20th century, when used to compare with other missals.
PEL - A Primer of Ecclesiastical Latin, by John E. Collins
S.M. - St. Mary My Everyday Missal and Heritage. - (1948), issued by the Monks of St. Mary's Abbey, Newark, NJ, Rt. Rev. Patrick O'Brien, OSB, Abbot - published by Benzinger Bros.
With that in mind:
Basic text for the posts will be in white. In the main body of the text, if you see something in white, in quotes, assume it was not written by me. It will be followed by a dash and an abbreviation for the original source of the material. I may put some common abbreviations used on the sidebar, but for full details of the source see the bottom of this post..
Any commentary text I add, will not be quoted, but will follow after a line break, followed by a series of dashes.
Sometimes, particularly when quoting the St. Mary's missal I have, information will have changed since 1948, when the book was published - such things as percentage of Catholics in a given US state, or population figures, etc. These emmendations will be given in bright blue type font, placed between curly brackets.
Example:
"St Froddo was born in hard time Mississsippi, surrounded by 4 walls that weren't so pretty, his parents gave him bon-bons, and a unicycle in 1912{1914}. Blah, blah. -- BS"
---
Heaven knows why this guy was made a Saint
--
Ergo the business about Froddo was a quote from "Bull Stuff " and you can look up the particulars on the source "Bull Stuff" here in detail, or on the sidebar for a short reference. The "heaven knows" comment was something I made up.
Links will be in yellow. Abbreviations for sources will be in red, there will be a short reference to the abbreviation in the sidebar--full details of the publication or source will be at the bottom of this post.
If for some reason, I get a hankering to add a link that also plays music, I will put a musical note or two behind the link, as a "Fair warning" that if you're goofing off at work, or whatever, reading this blog, the link you click to will play some music. A word to the wise.
Also on the side bar, will be some useful links which bring up frequentlly mentioned information - for instance, a list of popes, etc. it may be an external link to another site (duh), or if need be, it may link to a scribd page I've created. [Don't have any up yet, but keep an eye out for them.]
Where census figures and the like are updated, the most likely source will be The Catholic Almanac, or official US Census figures. If a different source is used, I'll so note with a hyphen and an Abbriviation as to source.
Watch my tags, I will try and be consistent. For instance, if there is a lovely series in the St. Mary's missal regards the history of the spread of Catholicism in each state I will try to put not only the name of the state in the tags section, but also the word "states."
Also, as regards to writing up the info. about the states -- for right now, I will not be doing them in alphabetical order. In part, because two states have been added to the Union since '48, namely Alaska and Hawaii, and I'm going to need some time to gather info on those states. I will try and do one state a week, usually in the order the state was admitted to the Union. [If there's a BIG bribe in the offing, however....]
If you're going to drop me a line privately, feel free, HOWEVER, give me a heads up in an online comment -- I generally don't check the email this blog is officially linked to. So, no, I'm not standoffish - it's just that you may be waiting for a MONTH (or more!) sometimes, before I'd see your email -- then you'd think I hated your guts or was ignoring you. You can write me there, of course, but do give me a heads up -- even if you don't have anything to say about that item.
It occurs to me that I am HOURS, and HOURS time zone wise behind most of you -- so I will try to get items that pertain to a given day or days a little ahead of time when applicable, but don't hold my feet to the fire over it. Capisce? Other wise I send out my half-Sicilian Godfather, Uncle Rollie. He's pushing 80, but he can still probably beat the crap out of you because he's a Frozen Chosin.
Abbreviations and their full attributions: (this list will likely expand over time)
-----------------------------------------
B.P.M. - Refers to the Latin Mass '62 edition recently published by Baronius Press. If they hadn't have been so lame, in some respects, I wouldn't have started this blog. (Well, okay, I had "other resources" to compare them with.)
C.E.N.A. - Catholic Encyclopedia, which is on the New-Advent Website. This reference will probably be used fairly frequently in links.
C.H. - Laux, Fr. John, - Church History (a history of the Catholic Church until 1940) -- originally published in 1930, with periodic emmendations -- Good for "upper high school * College Courses and Adult Reading." recently republished by TAN books. -- I would have loved this book in High School and after. In my day, in the 70s a lot of the religious education courses available were pretty Mickey Mouse (no offense to the Mouse!). [The only challenging class I had for religion was a basic philosophy class I took when I was 16, all the other classes were pretty much an easy "A" unless you were a complete moron, or "B" at worst. You'd have had to cut class to smoke ciggies if you got a "C" or less.
J. - The Mass of the Roman (Its origins and development), by Joseph Jungmann, 2 Vols. Originally published in the 50s, reissued by Collegeville press. I expect this resource will be invaluable for background articles. Jungmann was a master at being thorough, I'm not one for "allegorical" explanations as the main mover and shaker. [Allegorical is fine as an extra layer on type of everything, but it's usually something embroidered after the fact.
M.R.25 - Refers to my beautiful Missale Romanum, published in 1925. It's a beautiful little hand missal, 99% in Latin, designed for priest/seminarian. Quite useful for spotting changes to the calendar, or ritual over the course of the 20th century, when used to compare with other missals.
PEL - A Primer of Ecclesiastical Latin, by John E. Collins
S.M. - St. Mary My Everyday Missal and Heritage. - (1948), issued by the Monks of St. Mary's Abbey, Newark, NJ, Rt. Rev. Patrick O'Brien, OSB, Abbot - published by Benzinger Bros.
Wednesday, November 25, 2009
Why this blog?
But...But...But....Karen....Why this blog? Don't you have a perfectly good blog?
Yes, I do. HOWEVER - in the last year I have been going to the Extraordinary Form of the Roman Rite quite frequently - and in the course of the last year have come across some rather good out-of-print and out-of-copyright (as far as I have researched!) material(s), which I'd like to share with others.
Why NOW? Why did you WAIT if you were sitting on this treasure trove? What are you SELFISH or something?
Yes, I'm selfish ... and .... I didn't think of it before ... and because I've been following the EF form since just before last Lent AND a new liturgical year is about to start, which makes the timing about perfect. With any luck, I can put up a few posts re: some general resources for the EF Mass before this Sunday. Kind of "EF for Dummies" stuff.
What do you expect ALL of us to switch over to the EF?
Nah. I'm mostly doing so that I'm not the last one on planet earth who can appreciate all the loving detail that went into what otherwise might be lost or forgotten publications.
Aren't there new Baronius press missals that are good enough?
New missals, yes. But I found Baronius, and other "new" missals really LAME in some key aspects. Like detail. Would you rather read:
BP: Saint Whozis: Feb. 30th -- Killed under Diocletian
OR
Saint Whozis: Feb. 30th -- St. Whozis was born of parents who ran a circus. Mom was a
high wire artist, and dad fed the elephants. One day, the emporer, Diocletian, decided Jasper, the most famous elephant of his time, should be worshiped as a god. St. Whozis told the emporer he was nuts and Diocletian had him thrown to the lions.
Thought so.
What other cool stuff will be in this blog?
I have three missals I constantly use -- from different eras. One from the 20s, on the late 40s, and one from 62. I love spotting when things change. [It's the history geek in me coming out.]
For instance, why in heck was Oct. 31st dropped from the '62 calendar as a formal vigil? Beats me, but I thought it was interesting that they did drop that. Whatever. Sometime, during the course of the last year, I was really amazed at how UNSTATIC, the "static" EF Mass was. So help me, some of those guys dinking around were like dogs marking their territory. Because they "could."
Also, there a lot of good information on how Catholicism spread in the US, state by state - plus good catechetical points - and how the Church calendar has changed. If I get really ambitious, I can also talk about that messy interim period -- between spring of 64 and 69.
I intend to take us through the Church year, bit by bit.
My *other* blog, will still be my main one but this way you won't have to wade through me unloading on zero.
Karen, why did you chose to use blogger again, instead of wordpress?
Believe me, I was tempted by the fact that you can do pages in Wordpress. I was not enamoured by the pain in the ass templates however, along with certain other Nazi-like features that using Wordpress would involve. Some of the things I intend to do, for instance, give the history of the spread of Catholicism through each state in the US, would lend itself nicely to having a "page" of its own. I think I'll be able to work around this by using good, consistent tags and some decent sidebar gee-whiz prestidigitation. [That's PFM to you folks in Rio Lindo.]
Karen, was the new Maidenform lady REALLY necessary? Isn't this supposed to be a more serious blog, don't you know priests might be reading this blog and find the Maidenform lady offensive?
Perhaps. But then they're probably just stick-in-the-muds anyway. And besides, I wanted to give you a "subtext" heads up that in case you found a smart assed remark here and there you shouldn't be too surprised. I mean, what do you expect when there's a picture of a dame in her bra standing in front of a pink elephant? I WAS going to say underneath her: "I dreamed I found some really cool stuff in my Maidenform bra" but, thankfully, it occurred to me that perhaps that might be misconstrued, so I didn't say that.
More to come -- I still have to add some blog features, and work out some conventions -- so hold your water if you don't see all the normal sidebar goodies just yet .. I wasted most of the day screwing around with wordpress before deciding it was more trouble than it was worth -- so keep your shirt on!!! [Unless, you're wearing Maidenform, or are a guy.]
Yes, I do. HOWEVER - in the last year I have been going to the Extraordinary Form of the Roman Rite quite frequently - and in the course of the last year have come across some rather good out-of-print and out-of-copyright (as far as I have researched!) material(s), which I'd like to share with others.
Why NOW? Why did you WAIT if you were sitting on this treasure trove? What are you SELFISH or something?
Yes, I'm selfish ... and .... I didn't think of it before ... and because I've been following the EF form since just before last Lent AND a new liturgical year is about to start, which makes the timing about perfect. With any luck, I can put up a few posts re: some general resources for the EF Mass before this Sunday. Kind of "EF for Dummies" stuff.
What do you expect ALL of us to switch over to the EF?
Nah. I'm mostly doing so that I'm not the last one on planet earth who can appreciate all the loving detail that went into what otherwise might be lost or forgotten publications.
Aren't there new Baronius press missals that are good enough?
New missals, yes. But I found Baronius, and other "new" missals really LAME in some key aspects. Like detail. Would you rather read:
BP: Saint Whozis: Feb. 30th -- Killed under Diocletian
OR
Saint Whozis: Feb. 30th -- St. Whozis was born of parents who ran a circus. Mom was a
high wire artist, and dad fed the elephants. One day, the emporer, Diocletian, decided Jasper, the most famous elephant of his time, should be worshiped as a god. St. Whozis told the emporer he was nuts and Diocletian had him thrown to the lions.
Thought so.
What other cool stuff will be in this blog?
I have three missals I constantly use -- from different eras. One from the 20s, on the late 40s, and one from 62. I love spotting when things change. [It's the history geek in me coming out.]
For instance, why in heck was Oct. 31st dropped from the '62 calendar as a formal vigil? Beats me, but I thought it was interesting that they did drop that. Whatever. Sometime, during the course of the last year, I was really amazed at how UNSTATIC, the "static" EF Mass was. So help me, some of those guys dinking around were like dogs marking their territory. Because they "could."
Also, there a lot of good information on how Catholicism spread in the US, state by state - plus good catechetical points - and how the Church calendar has changed. If I get really ambitious, I can also talk about that messy interim period -- between spring of 64 and 69.
I intend to take us through the Church year, bit by bit.
My *other* blog, will still be my main one but this way you won't have to wade through me unloading on zero.
Karen, why did you chose to use blogger again, instead of wordpress?
Believe me, I was tempted by the fact that you can do pages in Wordpress. I was not enamoured by the pain in the ass templates however, along with certain other Nazi-like features that using Wordpress would involve. Some of the things I intend to do, for instance, give the history of the spread of Catholicism through each state in the US, would lend itself nicely to having a "page" of its own. I think I'll be able to work around this by using good, consistent tags and some decent sidebar gee-whiz prestidigitation. [That's PFM to you folks in Rio Lindo.]
Karen, was the new Maidenform lady REALLY necessary? Isn't this supposed to be a more serious blog, don't you know priests might be reading this blog and find the Maidenform lady offensive?
Perhaps. But then they're probably just stick-in-the-muds anyway. And besides, I wanted to give you a "subtext" heads up that in case you found a smart assed remark here and there you shouldn't be too surprised. I mean, what do you expect when there's a picture of a dame in her bra standing in front of a pink elephant? I WAS going to say underneath her: "I dreamed I found some really cool stuff in my Maidenform bra" but, thankfully, it occurred to me that perhaps that might be misconstrued, so I didn't say that.
More to come -- I still have to add some blog features, and work out some conventions -- so hold your water if you don't see all the normal sidebar goodies just yet .. I wasted most of the day screwing around with wordpress before deciding it was more trouble than it was worth -- so keep your shirt on!!! [Unless, you're wearing Maidenform, or are a guy.]
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